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By: Tommy Christopher

Tommy Christopher — Sun, 31 May 2009 20:10:46 +0000

Deciding whether a law is constitutional isn’t legislating, it’s “doing their job.”

By: Howey

Howey — Sun, 31 May 2009 20:06:08 +0000

Gays are not “second” or “third” or anything different from anyone else.

Marriage is defined as between “One Man & One Woman”. Just the way it is.

Gays need to come up with another definition if they don’t like “Civil Unions”.

Just the way it is. The great folks here in California have spoken. And I’m one of them.

End of story.

By: JTHM

JTHM — Sun, 31 May 2009 19:19:19 +0000

I guess people shouldn’t really bother voting on anything. Seriously, apathy and the fact that more courts are legislating from the bench and reducing voters to merely hurdles getting in the way of their own personal agenda.
I personally could give a rats ass about this issue, but I do care that an a huge majority of people from one of the most Leftist states in our country voted against it and more and more scumbag and weasely activists are looking to upsurp the will of the people….again…. through the courts.
Make no mistake, this is not a civil rights issue even though some are trying to make it that. If I were Black I’d be rightfully pissed off by it.

By: LogicalConstiution

LogicalConstiution — Sun, 31 May 2009 18:27:10 +0000

“If the voters of the state found that not attending at least one Christian service a week — should the court find that law unconstitutional?”

If it’s in the Constitution, absolutely.

By: LogicalConstiution

LogicalConstiution — Sun, 31 May 2009 18:20:59 +0000

This is complete nonsense. The USA is a democracy which means the laws and actions are based on a majority vote of the people. Be it a matter or life or death, right or wrong, the key to the government’s actions MUST be in the hands of the voting people. Must we also remind voters that there are already many other states in the USA that allow gay marriage. To think that the entire country must be forced without a vote is preposterous and unconstitutional. Bad news as well, when they said “all men were created equal.” you might want to ask George Washington and John Hancock how they felt about gays. Probly not a positive image in their mind.

Marriage was created and has always been run by the church. The government got involved to limit WHO could get married, ie gays, incest, animals, etc. It was also kept tabs on for health, security and child support for the sake of the law. This in effect violated their stance of separation of church and state but no one really seemed to care.

However, voters should approve an equal benefits of marriage deal where same sex partners get health and security benefits from their partners. That is only reasonable.

By: Dave

Dave — Sat, 30 May 2009 23:19:50 +0000

Well, I don’t know what this has to do with civil rights, or equal prtection nonsense. All this wasted rhetoric, anyway. There is no “right” to get married, in the first place. Not for opposite sex, not for same sex. It is not in our constituion as a defined right, nor even implied. Marrieage has been supported by societies for hundreds of years, and the insitution came about in law simply as a recognition of the special relationship and committment that a man and a woman have for each other, forming a family, and in most cases, raising children.
So, what’s all the ruckus about.?

By: Skygirl

Skygirl — Fri, 29 May 2009 05:57:28 +0000

For the person that said get the courts out… they have no business… YES THEY DO! the Federal and highest state courts of the land can look at state laws and the constitutionability of them. When people vote that they DO NOT WANT a law forced on them, they have every right to ask the courts to step in.

Betty and Betty and Don and Don do not need to be married. If you can prove to me there is no God (adam and eve). I will personally prove there is no link to being gay and DNA (ADAM v, ADAN, EVE & EVE).

By: Skygirl

Skygirl — Fri, 29 May 2009 05:46:27 +0000

I was married twice. The first husband had a father who was Gay. Came out after 28 years of marriage… His thoughts on Gay marriage… Unneeded and un wanted in his life. He went on to spend the next 20 years with his partner. If all legal issues were put into a bond /contract… no need for a marriage! There should never be a “marriage” between boys/boys- girls/girls period! What next? Boyfriend / girlfriend can get benefits (actually they do in the airline industry).
I hate to say that I am not religious because I do believe in God. I also realize that at times there is an issue with gender and hormones at birth. What I believe is happening here is trying to stuff same sex relationships on those who belive in a man and a women. What’s next? Man marrying sheep? Woman marrying a donkey?
Hell I LOVE my dogs but beastallity is not my style. Men shouldnot be bound to men or woman to woman through a LEGAL process and it was intended to be man and woman who “create” a family. Having a 3rd person involved does not count . Believe me, I do not judge you on who you have sex with, Ijudge the fact you want legal rights not intended for you. Give it up man! Get a lawyer… sign rights over to each other, I did that and I amlegally married.

Forceing individuals to accept same sex marriages Is not right in my lifetime.

By: Mustang

Mustang — Fri, 29 May 2009 00:16:42 +0000

There is a lot of evidence that supports the idea that the traditional model of family is the “ideal” for rearing children. Non traditonal isn’t the best way to rear kids because a whole host of psychological problems arise when there is either a mom or a dad absent in the child’s upbringing. For example, girls who are reared without benefit of a dad, are very susceptible to the first male that tells her he loves her because these girls tend to be starving for male attention. So, there is more of a tendency for these girls to crave love in men who will treat them poorly and they won’t leave because they think they deserve it. Boys need male role models, not two women to teach them how to be a man. It’s just a fact, sorry if you don’t like it. I don’t support gays having children at all. I live in CA and I voted for Prop 8 and I lived in the gay community for many yrs. I am straight. It’s not fear that makes us not want gay marriage. It’s that it is better for families and society to keep marriage the way it is. This isn’t a civil rights issue. It has somehow become overblown. I don’t think that many gays even cared about getting married before. I never spoke to one who wanted the “right” to get married. Most gays I knew when I lived in the gay community didn’t even stay together for long. The gay community should keep it’s focus on fundraising to eradicate AIDS. That is the main problem for the men in my opinion.